Friday, November 27, 2009

What Paul Said - Part III

Before we move on to talk about Paul, let me add a few more sticks to the fire.

Here are some modern quotes all related to women and the church.

All related to Paul's scriptural quotes.

How do these quotes make you feel?

“God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. This is not because men are necessarily better teachers, or because women are inferior or less intelligent (which is not the case). It is simply the way God designed the church to function. Men are to set the example in spiritual leadership—in their lives and through their words. Women are to take a less authoritative role. Women are encouraged to teach other women. The Bible also does not restrict women from teaching children. The only activity women are restricted from is teaching men or having spiritual authority over them. This logically would preclude women from serving as pastors/preachers. This does not make women less important, by any means, but rather gives them a ministry focus more in agreement with God’s plan and His gifting of them.”

Women pastors / preachers? What does the Bible say about women in ministry?

"We believe that the Bible says that while both men and women are gifted for service in the church, the office of pastor is limited to men as qualified by Scripture," says Richard Land, a senior officer of the SBC.

Land is referring to the New Testament letters of the Apostle Paul, who said women should not have authority over men in the church and the home. The Baptists reaffirmed that teaching in 2000.

Baptist Leaders Face Challenge On Women's Roles, July 24, 2009 by Barbara Bradley Hagerty

“God's word clearly tells us that the elder is to be the husband of one wife. A woman cannot qualify for this position by virtue of her being female. Whether anyone likes it or not is irrelevant to the fact that this is what the Bible teaches.”

Should Women Be Pastors and Elders? Christian Apologetics Research and Ministry

“The context is abundantly clear. Paul addresses men and women in general as members of the church and not just husbands and wives, as he does in Ephesians 5:22-23 and Colossians 3:18-19. The apostle calls upon all men, not just husbands, to lift up holy hands in prayer (1 Tim 2:8). He summons all women, not just wives, to dress modestly (1 Tim 2:9). Similarly Paul prohibits all women, not just wives, to teach authoritatively as the head of the congregation (1 Tim 2:12). This Teaching may not be popular, but it has the merit of being true to Scripture.”

Women and Leadership In The Church, Touch of Faith Ministry

“We have seen that the explicit texts of Scripture forbid women to serve as pastors. The biblical model for family roles supports that stance as well. It is not a matter of inferiority or worth, for all persons are of equal worth in their persons, reflecting the essential equality of the Godhead. It is a matter of function. There is no compelling reason to encourage women as pastors, and there are many reasons not to do so. Prior to the eternal state, however, there is a demand for functional organization. The organization prescribed for churches pictures God's functional organization in the Godhead. Therefore, based upon these texts and models, a woman's spiritual service is to be in those roles assigned her by God. These do not include the role of pastor.”

Women Pastors: What Does the Bible Teach by Richard R. Melick, Jr., Ph.D. May 1998

“In the Church’s latest statement on this matter, Pope John Paul II, using his full authority as the successor of Peter, states categorically that the Church cannot — not will not, but cannot — ordain women, now or in the future. The Catechism of the Catholic Church sets it out clearly, quoting the decree Inter insigniores: Only a baptized man (vir) receives sacred ordination. The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ’s return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord Himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.”

“God established a model to represent His unbreakable, eternal covenant with mankind. That model extends into the church and the home, into the relationships between men and women and parents and children. God's rule against women serving as Pastors and Elders has nothing to do with their ability. It would be inappropriate for a woman to teach or have authority over men in the church because it turns the model God established upside down. This doesn't make women less valuable or less important in any way. This doesn't mean women can't serve in countless other leadership areas. But it certainly extends into Eldership or pastoral roles where a woman would have spiritual authority over men.”

Women In Church Leadership, George Pytlik, 2005

Do you know what your church's opinion is of women and their participation in the church?

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